Still looking for the Black Karen Straughan-Rebecca Lynn Pope ain’t her

“Where is the Black Karen Straughan”    Mumia Obsidian Ali

PS:  Rebecca Lynn Pope is not her.

 

Rebecca Lynn Pope is refreshing, I know guys have been waiting to hear those words from an American Black woman but it’s too little too late and does not go far enough. She speaks straight-talk to the women but does that mean anything for the guys? Maybe all she did was coop Black mansophere talking points and that’s where it stops. Or maybe she realizes the dating game is now a buyers market not seller’s market and employing a little coach’m up tough love to the sellers. Even if the body-politic takes her advice, there is still the ingrained notion of settling.

The Fundamental human right

I read a lot of comments on the black wing of the manosphere on Youtube. What I’m finding out is that black men haven’t, for the most part, connected the dots to what having reproductive rights means to their lives.  The reason for this is how easy it is to throw black men off target by invoking race base grievances and racial solidarity shaming language. (But then getting raked over the coals because of an innocuous comment, like Cam Newton, and still seeing race and not the gender effect.)  Or this is just the venting stage as the Red Pill transition takes place. But there can be no solidarity, black politics or black unity and black men should not enter any agreement with those who don’t believe black men should have equal reproductive rights. What is more a more fundamental human right than to decide when, with whom and under what circumstances you procreate? Procreation came 2nd after eating, even before security and shelter.

Venting about “Black female fuckery”


There’s a lot of time spent critiquing “black female fuckery” and there is plenty there; it should be taken to task. What “black female fuckery” has meant, for black boys especially, over the last 2/3 generations is criminal and for 40+yrs they have deflected attention from their role in all of this. The interpersonal part, although cathartic to vent about, is not an issue for me beyond pointing out the stunning hypocrisy of black women and their Queen B flying monkeys. And of course seeing them tap dance around the poetic justice blowing back from their own words and all the shit they talked in the 80s and 90s.  But who they sleep with or marry, thug or non-black male, is neither here nor there, why should it be in a world full of women?  Which is why I have no interest in, as Mumia Obsidian Ali says, “forcing them to horse trade”.  I’m not looking personally and if I have any advice, it’s that we’re beyond the tipping point, it’s too late. All that needs to be said, has been said, there’s nothing to talk about, they’ve shown they have no interest in hearing from black men, so no guy should be grovelling to explain or defend anything, just say good luck on the open dating market.  Unless it’s wrangling from their hands, the complete power over the stewardship of these boys, I have no rap beyond them as just another citizen group. And, I’ve explained the why in a previous post, most recently when the fate was sealed by Damon Young.  I truly hope everyone does well.  As hard as it is to connect with another human beings, if you find someone you connect with, no matter what race, culture, take advantage of it. Whatever fetish you have, knock yourself out. But you can stall the dick monitoring of  black men.

Still waiting for the Black Karen Straughan

Getting back to the topic in the title, here is an excellent video by Karen Straughan, addressing Jordan Peterson’s comment about MGTOW. Now for many black men this will be hard to accept, we seem to think that, if a person speaks with a certain cadence they actually have something worth listening too and if they don’t, then it doesn’t’ resonate. As it stands now the baby canard, “black men need to take care of de ‘sponsibilities” is the last battle cry, the only thing they can hold over black men’s head. (And piggy-backing on White Feminist’s grasp for funding via this DV focus will back fire; black women aren’t white women and when people start unpacking the data on IPV, they’re going to discover something and black women, it is not going to be a good look).  So I hope guys will take the time to listen to these ideas and contemplate how all this is relevant to their lives

Reproductive control: young black men and the State

Straughn’s breakdown of Jordan Peterson is like a case study. If young black men had reproductive rights and stayed out of trouble, they would cut a lot of risk. We know they aren’t going to be celibate and “keep it in your pants” is not a reproductive right. So even if they avoid serious criminal trouble, there is this other avenue for the state to enter their life. They’re not marrying so that part is not so much the problem (unless they desire marriage) but they are fucking. They need to have the right to give affirmative consent and not be forced into fatherhood. They have to find a way to avoid the state, until the laws are changed, that horse-trading table I can get with. I can’t tell you how many black men will argue for their right to remain 2nd class on this. Still believing that old meme, old wives tale, or my momma said stuff of the pre-birth control and abortion shot-gun wedding era.  Update that software dawg!

So if you have reached your limit with, “black female fuckery” and you arrive to the open dating world as refugee, not by choice or accident; just know that these laws apply with any woman, no matter the race. Guys who have been on the open dating scene pretty much know this but late entry guys might come to this a little naive.

Response to Jordan Peterson

Jordan Peterson relies to blow-back from his MGTOW criticism.

Black Gender War: Intersectionality deflection and Mass Incarceration

Here is another conversation. This one from Youtube channel, Breaking Brown with Yvette Carnell.   It is all politics and I believe Yvette does an excellent job, she is a throw back to the type of women who spoke direct, plan and in pragmatic terms.   I have to say I don’t think what we know as Black politics has a future.  But, many are still playing the game and if you are going to play that game she seems to have a better take than the typical “Negro whisperers”,  Harris-Perry, Dyson, Lamont Hill, Charles Blow and the like. She maybe to the left of me but I respect her courage, she’ll take on sacred cows and I don’t believe she is a true ideology and can be convinced.
The topic was 40% unemployment for young black men and of course incarceration naturally comes up.  Reva calls in to intersectionality us.  She wants to change a conversation about incarceration to a conversation about black women being erased.
Either these women are delusional with narcissistic personality disorder, cognitively not evolved to contemplate life without themselves at the center—same thing I guess. Or, they are orchestrated trolls with talking points that derail conversations.

Here’s a call from a woman named Reva, from Kentucky.

So even though black women are far far far less impacted, intersectionality has it that they still should be, if not put at the top of the issue, given equal time.  Why, when that 300 rate is normal, along with everyone else?  If this was some ‘achievement” stat and black women were in the norm with everyone else and black men were the outliers, they’d be talking about how much better they’re doing than the men.  There is no issue where black men are doing worse than black women and the men are put at the top of the discussion list.

At each point:  Yvette says children and quickly (move over black children) Reva injects, “and black women”.   Yvette says issues from eviction, to debt, to all kinds of stuff, Reva injects “That are specific to us”.

“That are specific to us”, only US, those in that echo chamber who talks about nothing but US. If they were at all interested in climate change, infrastructure, globalization, terrorism (they aren’t) their angle would be telling you how those things impact black women in more and unique ways because you know, they are black women.

This next caller is Antonio Moore who appears on the show occasionally and has his own Youtube channel TonetalksAntonio Moore graduated from UCLA, and Loyola Law School. He is now a practicing Los Angeles based attorney. He writes for The Huffington Post, The Grio and Inquality.org.  In recent years he worked as a producer on the Emmy nominated documentary entitled Crack in the System presented by Al Jazeera. It tells the story of the effects of Mass Incarceration, the Iran Contra and the resulting crack cocaine epidemic that swept across America.

Here’s the call and follow up by Yvette

Black Gender War: Converse a case study analogy

This is a re-print from another post. Think it deserves its own space.Converse a case study analogy

Nike came on the scene and instead of evolving and adapting Converse shrugged arrogantly (or, poked out their lips, rolled their eyes) and said, “We’re Converse we don’t have to change or compete”.  It was a conservative stodgy company of another generation that had gotten comfortable, slow and/or resistant to change and uninteresting. Nike a hip flexible bold visionary company zoomed right pass the king of the block and went on to purchased Converse.


The country was changing, over the next 30yrs the American demographic landscape would evolve.

In the American Black woman echo chamber there was a Converse like arrogance and the sentiment; we’re the shit, been the shit, where else are they (men) gonna go?   By the 80s they had grown more comfortable. “I can do bad all by myself”, “I don’t need no man”, etc. was the battle cry. They exhaled (and flexed) on any and every platform that would shove a mic or camera in their face. The tone then changed because the marriage numbers were embarrassingly low and they needed to explain to America why? Of course, you don’t want to admit that they aren’t beating down the door, so presto, as deflection, you come up with plausible denials like, “can’t find a man”. Playing on all the stereotypes they new mainstream American would buy. Somewhere in there for a while it was, “Black men have more interracial dating options and it isn’t fair”. Hard to keep track though because it is all a self-serving convenient circular mind-fuck.
Anyway, the guys heard how they felt and quietly, without fanfare, voted with their feet. Except Jamal’s thirsty hit it and quit it dad (he told you) who is now in jail, dead, gone or not interested. Time passed and things got quiet, women  looked over their shoulders expecting a sea of men groveling at their feet and to their surprise and no one was there.  Things went from where are they gonna go to, where did they go. (Which they then re-framed, packaged and sold as “abandonment”, again playing on stereotypes the mainstream America is ready to buy). Many guys simply opted out, never to get married, others found the retail world of women; they come in all shapes, sizes and colors (plus the DR/ Rio) and discovered sweetness.

Having tasted sweetness, how it feels to not be defense attorney on probation ( I know how you black men are), how it feels when women actually like you, there is no turning back. Those men are not coming back,especially not to clean up yours and Ray Ray’s mess.
Most American Black women born after about 1970 don’t have the DNA for sweetness.  The ones that do (you know who you are) are off the market by 30 or shortly after. The others, when they’re not cheer-leading or what is it now, uplifting each other (gets heavy I know), they double down with the weird mating call of browbeating.

All these years later, on a Friday night you can still see this scene from Waiting to Exhale. Now, the “Only thing on the menu is crow!”

It would seem like introspection is in order but nah, they’re doubling down on what hasn’t worked because they (unless they escape the echo chamber, which I highly suggest) just do not have the technology.  This (youtube beefs, lawsuits, flagged channels, etc.) is just what the unraveling looks like, got my popcorn.

Retail world of women:

Reference to The Obama effect: poll #’s

In my post about The Obama effect, I mentioned the early polling in Fall 2007 and January 2008; referring to the 68% support for Hillary among Black women.

Check out how the CNN host finishes his report. 

I’m amused that for CNN the story is about the black vote, that black women don’t just rely on race, they vote as women too; or so we’re told. It’s simply replacing one tribal bias with another but ok?

MEANWHILE, the story could easily have been, what seems to me the more interesting angle, the balanced split among Black men, 42% for Hillary vs 46% for Obama, a virtual tie, a triumph over race and gender. There’s less virtue in that? If you are CNN and your programming has become shameless placating, then I guess the answer is yes.

2012 NBA Champions

Boy was I off with my Thunder in 5 prediction.  My prediction was based on what I’d seen so far from the Heat,–The Pacers having them on the ropes-the Celtics stealing game 5, extending the series to a game 7 (in game 7-the series was still up for grabs until the last 1/3rd of the 4th quarter).  Meanwhile in  the West, the Spurs were just rolling along.  They took the Thunder to school in the first 2 games of the Western Conference finals.  Game 2 was about the best display of basketball I’d seen, since I can’t remember.  I wrote that if an alien landed on earth and wanted to know basketball you’d put in the tape of the 1st half of game 2. Although I must admit something felt wrong, I said to my wife-games like that are so special it’s weird, they may have peaked to soon. I dismissed the thought, thinking instead that the Spurs would stay focused.

The Thunder turned it around. The Spurs, on an incredible run were just stopped in full stride and dismantled on the spot, series over.   There’s always a tendency to over-react to performances like Game 2.
In the 1985 NBA finals Game 1 Boston vs LA., the Cs ran the Lakers out the gym. The Cs were the reigning NBA champs, defeating the Lakers in the previous years’ finals so everyone one thought, here we go again, Laker fans were devastated after that game.  The Celts win one of the next 5 games and lose the series.
Anyway, the Thunder looked strong, the Heat were struggling.  But looking back on it now, Eastern conference finals game 6, closeout game on the road against the Celtics was The re-birth of ‘bron. He said I got this.  Like the incredible hulk, he broke through to another plane, things changed.   In Game 3 of the finals, the Heat got close enough to sniff the championship and it was on.

But I don’t mind being wrong because it was so gratifying to see Lebron get the monkey off his back. The decision wasn’t that big a deal and neither was joining forces to play with 2 stars.  But the 4th quarter melt downs and 17 and 7 in 2011 to  28 and 10 this year, shows that the critique of Lebron was legit. I’ve always felt that if he developed a Mitch Richmond post presence he’d elevate his game.  But the other stuff, The “hate”, “criticism, etc?  My answer was- just go win one (ring), when you’re a champion, you’re a champion. He didn’t win one sounds a lot worst than he only has one. So check, done deal.
After breaking through psychologically it would seem (he said as much himself), he also went to another dimension physically.  He added much to his repertoire.  I see free agents wanting to come to Miami and play with him so expect the new ‘bron to be right there for a few years. A freer Lebron, with new gifts to display-watch out!

The Series duds

In addition to how the Thunder were playing, After their play in games 3 & 4 of the Western Finals,  I thought the physicality of Serg Ibaka and Kendrick Perkins, with Collison off the bench would be trouble for the Heat.  Collison played well but Serg and Perkins didn’t put their stamp on the series at all, not even in the things they do well. They didn’t protect the rim and dominate the boards or impose their size and toughness. Maybe you have 2 guys on the floor who do the same thing?  James Harden:  I won’t go as hard on him as others, shooters go into slumps but the timing couldn’t have been worse.  I also think Eric Maynor would have helped out with Chalmers and Cole.

Nope, the veteran role players on the heat, Chalmers, Haslem and more to the point Battier, Miller (who weren’t apart of the last championship) came to play. These league vets smelled the championship and 23yr olds didn’t pick up the scent. So congrats to Battier, Miller and special shout out to Juwan Howard.

The Big 3

The experiment a move that brought 3 stars together was ratified. Say what you want about  Magic, Bird, Jordan wouldn’t have gone and played together; these 3 have a championship together. The fact that they went through a struggle, criticism, changes & sacrifice to their on the court play, meant that it didn’t come cheap.  And maybe, though I doubt either would admit, a little harder than they thought?  In the end they worked for it, got it and that’s what counts.
There was a lot of talk about the 3 coming together but really: Magic, Kareem, Worthy.  Bird, Parish, McHale (Johnson). Garnet, Pierce and Allen (after it’s all said and done, Rondo’s name will give Boston its 2nd foursome). Jordan, Pippen and Rodman. Hakeem, Barkely and Drexler. I think you get the point…..

My GM Hat
I’d try to move Wade now while there’s still value but because of the relationships, they’ll try one more year with him.  I just think he’s about to break down and getting value through a trade and counting on free agency signing could set them up to win 3/4 of the next 5.  Steph Curry through trade?  A big through free agency, like a Tyson chandler or Jakim Noah type-athletic, long and active. But if he returns to full health and can stay healthy Wade could also keep them in the mix the next 3yrs? Just don’t know?

Don’t think we’ve seen the last of a Thunder-Heat match up.  Until the Lakers reload, which is a given because they’re the Lakers, I can’t see anyone else threatening them in the West. In the East, the Bulls will threaten but Lebron is a bigger stronger version of what the Bulls have so I’m giving the edge to the Heat to hold them off. 

But congrats to The Miami Heat, 2012 NBA world champions.