Still looking for the Black Karen Straughan-Rebecca Lynn Pope ain’t her

“Where is the Black Karen Straughan”    Mumia Obsidian Ali

PS:  Rebecca Lynn Pope is not her.

 

Rebecca Lynn Pope is refreshing, I know guys have been waiting to hear those words from an American Black woman but it’s too little too late and does not go far enough. She speaks straight-talk to the women but does that mean anything for the guys? Maybe all she did was coop Black mansophere talking points and that’s where it stops. Or maybe she realizes the dating game is now a buyers market not seller’s market and employing a little coach’m up tough love to the sellers. Even if the body-politic takes her advice, there is still the ingrained notion of settling.

The Fundamental human right

I read a lot of comments on the black wing of the manosphere on Youtube. What I’m finding out is that black men haven’t, for the most part, connected the dots to what having reproductive rights means to their lives.  The reason for this is how easy it is to throw black men off target by invoking race base grievances and racial solidarity shaming language. (But then getting raked over the coals because of an innocuous comment, like Cam Newton, and still seeing race and not the gender effect.)  Or this is just the venting stage as the Red Pill transition takes place. But there can be no solidarity, black politics or black unity and black men should not enter any agreement with those who don’t believe black men should have equal reproductive rights. What is more a more fundamental human right than to decide when, with whom and under what circumstances you procreate? Procreation came 2nd after eating, even before security and shelter.

Venting about “Black female fuckery”


There’s a lot of time spent critiquing “black female fuckery” and there is plenty there; it should be taken to task. What “black female fuckery” has meant, for black boys especially, over the last 2/3 generations is criminal and for 40+yrs they have deflected attention from their role in all of this. The interpersonal part, although cathartic to vent about, is not an issue for me beyond pointing out the stunning hypocrisy of black women and their Queen B flying monkeys. And of course seeing them tap dance around the poetic justice blowing back from their own words and all the shit they talked in the 80s and 90s.  But who they sleep with or marry, thug or non-black male, is neither here nor there, why should it be in a world full of women?  Which is why I have no interest in, as Mumia Obsidian Ali says, “forcing them to horse trade”.  I’m not looking personally and if I have any advice, it’s that we’re beyond the tipping point, it’s too late. All that needs to be said, has been said, there’s nothing to talk about, they’ve shown they have no interest in hearing from black men, so no guy should be grovelling to explain or defend anything, just say good luck on the open dating market.  Unless it’s wrangling from their hands, the complete power over the stewardship of these boys, I have no rap beyond them as just another citizen group. And, I’ve explained the why in a previous post, most recently when the fate was sealed by Damon Young.  I truly hope everyone does well.  As hard as it is to connect with another human beings, if you find someone you connect with, no matter what race, culture, take advantage of it. Whatever fetish you have, knock yourself out. But you can stall the dick monitoring of  black men.

Still waiting for the Black Karen Straughan

Getting back to the topic in the title, here is an excellent video by Karen Straughan, addressing Jordan Peterson’s comment about MGTOW. Now for many black men this will be hard to accept, we seem to think that, if a person speaks with a certain cadence they actually have something worth listening too and if they don’t, then it doesn’t’ resonate. As it stands now the baby canard, “black men need to take care of de ‘sponsibilities” is the last battle cry, the only thing they can hold over black men’s head. (And piggy-backing on White Feminist’s grasp for funding via this DV focus will back fire; black women aren’t white women and when people start unpacking the data on IPV, they’re going to discover something and black women, it is not going to be a good look).  So I hope guys will take the time to listen to these ideas and contemplate how all this is relevant to their lives

Reproductive control: young black men and the State

Straughn’s breakdown of Jordan Peterson is like a case study. If young black men had reproductive rights and stayed out of trouble, they would cut a lot of risk. We know they aren’t going to be celibate and “keep it in your pants” is not a reproductive right. So even if they avoid serious criminal trouble, there is this other avenue for the state to enter their life. They’re not marrying so that part is not so much the problem (unless they desire marriage) but they are fucking. They need to have the right to give affirmative consent and not be forced into fatherhood. They have to find a way to avoid the state, until the laws are changed, that horse-trading table I can get with. I can’t tell you how many black men will argue for their right to remain 2nd class on this. Still believing that old meme, old wives tale, or my momma said stuff of the pre-birth control and abortion shot-gun wedding era.  Update that software dawg!

So if you have reached your limit with, “black female fuckery” and you arrive to the open dating world as refugee, not by choice or accident; just know that these laws apply with any woman, no matter the race. Guys who have been on the open dating scene pretty much know this but late entry guys might come to this a little naive.

Response to Jordan Peterson

Jordan Peterson relies to blow-back from his MGTOW criticism.

Reproductive rights for men: use the legalization of drugs argument to address babymamaism in the black community

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“Consent to sex is not a consent to fatherhood”  Thugtician

The right for men to decide when and if they’re ready to parent and with whom is the  legalization of drugs argument in the reproductive rights arena.   I don’t have solutions for the so-called black community, but I do know in a visceral way, that whatever solution or set of solutions you come up with has to start with reducing the number of babies. The children born from dysfunctional relationship/mating and/or casual hook ups is the fuel for interpersonal problems that lead to greater communal problems. It is ALL about removing incentives.

If I use a condom and it breaks doesn’t that mean I didn’t consent to fatherhood? 

I believe Legal Paternal Surrender as Karen Straugham eloquently lays out in her 4 part series or Roe for men (below) from Mumi Obsidian Ali at the Obsidian Media Network is the start of the conversation.
So to the black men on youtube in the black manosphere, instead of worrying about who other black men, love, sleep with or date; or arguing personal preferences, maybe shift your mind to something worthwhile. And that is, your reproductive rights or the right to decide, on your terms, when and if you’re ready to parent.  On probably the most important decision of your life, you basically have no say.  Save the big mamaism madea rhetoric like, “keep it in your pants”;  that isn’t a reproductive right and certainly isn’t the solid legal protection afforded to women. Condoms break and there’s no proof or guarantee the woman is taking the pill, so you’re relying on trust and not solid legal protection.
But, at the same time, don’t totally ignore the sentiment, if you take it out of your pants make sure you’re not putting it into dirt.