“Where is the Black Karen Straughan” Mumia Obsidian Ali
PS: Rebecca Lynn Pope is not her.
Rebecca Lynn Pope is refreshing, I know guys have been waiting to hear those words from an American Black woman but it’s too little too late and does not go far enough. She speaks straight-talk to the women but does that mean anything for the guys? Maybe all she did was coop Black mansophere talking points and that’s where it stops. Or maybe she realizes the dating game is now a buyers market not seller’s market and employing a little coach’m up tough love to the sellers. Even if the body-politic takes her advice, there is still the ingrained notion of settling.
The Fundamental human right
I read a lot of comments on the black wing of the manosphere on Youtube. What I’m finding out is that black men haven’t, for the most part, connected the dots to what having reproductive rights means to their lives. The reason for this is how easy it is to throw black men off target by invoking race base grievances and racial solidarity shaming language. (But then getting raked over the coals because of an innocuous comment, like Cam Newton, and still seeing race and not the gender effect.) Or this is just the venting stage as the Red Pill transition takes place. But there can be no solidarity, black politics or black unity and black men should not enter any agreement with those who don’t believe black men should have equal reproductive rights. What is more a more fundamental human right than to decide when, with whom and under what circumstances you procreate? Procreation came 2nd after eating, even before security and shelter.
Venting about “Black female fuckery”
There’s a lot of time spent critiquing “black female fuckery” and there is plenty there; it should be taken to task. What “black female fuckery” has meant, for black boys especially, over the last 2/3 generations is criminal and for 40+yrs they have deflected attention from their role in all of this. The interpersonal part, although cathartic to vent about, is not an issue for me beyond pointing out the stunning hypocrisy of black women and their Queen B flying monkeys. And of course seeing them tap dance around the poetic justice blowing back from their own words and all the shit they talked in the 80s and 90s. But who they sleep with or marry, thug or non-black male, is neither here nor there, why should it be in a world full of women? Which is why I have no interest in, as Mumia Obsidian Ali says, “forcing them to horse trade”. I’m not looking personally and if I have any advice, it’s that we’re beyond the tipping point, it’s too late. All that needs to be said, has been said, there’s nothing to talk about, they’ve shown they have no interest in hearing from black men, so no guy should be grovelling to explain or defend anything, just say good luck on the open dating market. Unless it’s wrangling from their hands, the complete power over the stewardship of these boys, I have no rap beyond them as just another citizen group. And, I’ve explained the why in a previous post, most recently when the fate was sealed by Damon Young. I truly hope everyone does well. As hard as it is to connect with another human beings, if you find someone you connect with, no matter what race, culture, take advantage of it. Whatever fetish you have, knock yourself out. But you can stall the dick monitoring of black men.
Still waiting for the Black Karen Straughan
Getting back to the topic in the title, here is an excellent video by Karen Straughan, addressing Jordan Peterson’s comment about MGTOW. Now for many black men this will be hard to accept, we seem to think that, if a person speaks with a certain cadence they actually have something worth listening too and if they don’t, then it doesn’t’ resonate. As it stands now the baby canard, “black men need to take care of de ‘sponsibilities” is the last battle cry, the only thing they can hold over black men’s head. (And piggy-backing on White Feminist’s grasp for funding via this DV focus will back fire; black women aren’t white women and when people start unpacking the data on IPV, they’re going to discover something and black women, it is not going to be a good look). So I hope guys will take the time to listen to these ideas and contemplate how all this is relevant to their lives
Reproductive control: young black men and the State
Straughn’s breakdown of Jordan Peterson is like a case study. If young black men had reproductive rights and stayed out of trouble, they would cut a lot of risk. We know they aren’t going to be celibate and “keep it in your pants” is not a reproductive right. So even if they avoid serious criminal trouble, there is this other avenue for the state to enter their life. They’re not marrying so that part is not so much the problem (unless they desire marriage) but they are fucking. They need to have the right to give affirmative consent and not be forced into fatherhood. They have to find a way to avoid the state, until the laws are changed, that horse-trading table I can get with. I can’t tell you how many black men will argue for their right to remain 2nd class on this. Still believing that old meme, old wives tale, or my momma said stuff of the pre-birth control and abortion shot-gun wedding era. Update that software dawg!
So if you have reached your limit with, “black female fuckery” and you arrive to the open dating world as refugee, not by choice or accident; just know that these laws apply with any woman, no matter the race. Guys who have been on the open dating scene pretty much know this but late entry guys might come to this a little naive.
Response to Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson relies to blow-back from his MGTOW criticism.